-- butt kicking is covered by obama care. apparently mr. miller believes mitt romney won the debate. that's true the governor did win. how do i know? because i turned to msnbc. the commentators there looked like per persians watching the germans march into paris in 1940. there was general heart break on that cable network. there was joy in the romney precincts. how did romney manage to outtalk president obama? he did it because weighs far more energetic and engaged in what he was actually saying. here is the best line mr. romney had. >> i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running made keep saying that and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people but it's just not the case. look, i have got five boys. i'm used to people saying something that's not always true but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i will belief it that's not the case. all right? i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. >> bill: that was a scripted line but the governor delivered it well. on the other side, president obama'

engaged in what he was actually saying. here is the best line mr. romney had. >> i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running made keep saying that and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people but it's just not the case. look, i have got five boys. i'm used to people saying something that's not always true but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i will belief it that's not the case. all right? i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. >> bill: that was a scripted line but the governor delivered it well. on the other side, president obama's best line mocked romney over the vagueness of his tax proposals. >> at some point, i think the american people have to ask themselves, is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they are too good? is it because that somehow middle class families are going to benefit too much from them? >> bill: again that was a scripted line. the president didn't deliver it with much verb. >> the president the is a good debater

did that you know it's going to happen again tonight. talking points believes mr. romney should, should point out that mr. obama used divisive rhetoric. that's true he has done that. will voters respond to that. some will. the casual voter may alcoholic it up to politics as usual. sos same old stuff. both romney and obama were speaking to the choir when they made controversial statements. they were whipping up the crowd. many romney supporters resent the fact that the nanny state is growing stronger in america. on the race front, polls show more than 90% of african-americans continue to support the president and truth be told he has not used race while governing this country. but there is no question that in that virginia speech, he did say that black americans in new orleans were treated badly simply because they were black. the problem for mr. obama is that's debatable. it's not a fact unless you are spike lee. the presidential debate this evening should be a passionate display. he has to call out barack obama on the muddled economy. the governor has to do that in. when that h

state of ohio mitt romney has surged 49% to mr. romney's 50. a virtual dead heat there as well. a few days ago had the president up big in ohio. in crucial virginia romney leads 49, 48, another tie in the margin of error. with the country still talking about mitt romney's victory the democratic party has decided to go into full attack mode. the strategy seems to be very simple. call mitt romney a liar. >> plenty of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. i mean if he was talking -- if he was speaking last night, he was lying. >> look, mitt romney had a good night but, you know, even, you know, a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. one good night is not going to erase a year of mitt romney's extreme positions. >> bill: that was pretty vicious, was it not? does the dnc really believe that kind of rhetoric will help the president? does it believe independent voters respond positively to that? i don't think they will. in the realm of politics often misleading statements. "time" magazine story this week runs down statements by both campaigns that ar

cases, ideology. mitt romney would be smart to seize on the libyan controversy as part of an overall competence challenge to mr. obama. if the economy remains bad and it does just check outearnings from ford and gm today, and america's overseas strategy is wobbling, which is seems to be, governor romney should have some heavy verbal ammunition to use in the debate tomorrow night. for his part, the president will remain steadfast that everything is going according to plan. >> four years ago i said i'd end the war in iraq, i did. i said we're going to wind down the war in afghanistan. we are. and while a twin tower -- while a new tower rises above the new york skyline, al-qaeda is on the path to defeat and osama bin laden is dead. >> bill: but according to the american commander in afghanistan, al-qaeda fighters are again causing trouble in that country and the terror group might even be responsible for murdering ambassador stevens. talking points believes many voters are still persuadable. that support for the president is thin among some independents. recent rasmussen poll says 42% o

and in many cases, ideology. ize onhe libyan controversyto as part of overall competence chnge to mr. obama. if the econom remai bad and it does just checkutearnings from ford and gm today, and america's overseas str seems to, gornor romney should have some tht. verbal ammunition to use for his part, the presiden will remainsteadft that everything is going according to plan. >> four yes ago iaid i'd end the war in iaq, i did. sai we're goi to wind down the r in afghanistan we are. tower rises above t newe york skyline, al-qaeda on the path to defeat and osamain laden is dea inbill: but according to the afghanistan, al-qaeda fighters are again causing trouble in thatount a theerror group might eve be responsible fo murderi ambassador stevens. talkg pots believe many voters are sti pable. that support for the president is thin among some iependents. cent rasmuen pollays 42% of those backing the president arck in stone. that gives the governorom room tomorrowt n he needs to ben makiemo. now for th top story, is u.s. foreign policy in trouble? joining us fromostoox news milita analyst, c